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Hi hi hi! I know I've posted here before...maybe like a billion years ago. xD But I would like your opinion on this question...
How is Hyde viewed in Japan? Or in the Japanese/Asian media? My Japanese friend's sister /hates/ him (please do not send any death threats...I already strung her up by her toenails), and views him as an arrogant, gay whore. (And, no flamming on the gay part, please. We /know/ the truth...xD lol jk)
Like, Angelina Jolie is viewed as a dark, serious, insanely gorgeous, kid/husband plucker and...well, beautiful. (I actually really like her^^)
Does anyone know, or have an idea, how the people and media view him? I was just really curious and wanted to know your thoughts. :)
Thanks for your time! Arigatou gozaimass!
How is Hyde viewed in Japan? Or in the Japanese/Asian media? My Japanese friend's sister /hates/ him (please do not send any death threats...I already strung her up by her toenails), and views him as an arrogant, gay whore. (And, no flamming on the gay part, please. We /know/ the truth...xD lol jk)
Like, Angelina Jolie is viewed as a dark, serious, insanely gorgeous, kid/husband plucker and...well, beautiful. (I actually really like her^^)
Does anyone know, or have an idea, how the people and media view him? I was just really curious and wanted to know your thoughts. :)
Thanks for your time! Arigatou gozaimass!
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Date: 2008-08-16 04:55 pm (UTC)Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Paa1nCAB5Yo
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNb3jUu4k44
I believe the part where they ask Tatsu about being called visual kei is in the second part, and the male reporter at the end of the clip has some interesting things to say that may shed some light on it. I linked both halves partly because Hyde is mostly int he first half, and to give the full context of the interview. In my opinion, the female reporter who actually did the interview seemed to have a neutral and rather objective stance, but her male co-anchor seemed to have a more negative opinion.
Hope this helped.
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Date: 2008-08-16 05:06 pm (UTC)Then I met a Japanese girl there, who had never even heard of him or L'Arc~en~Ciel before but was instead all over Gackt and m-flo. I was so disappointed and, to be honest, SHOCKED that there was a single person in Japan who didn't at least recognize his face or music. XD
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Date: 2008-08-17 02:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-16 09:42 pm (UTC)I kind of wonder what he's viewed like over there as well outside of his fans and in the mainstream circle. Like, what do everyday people in Japan think of Hyde?
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Date: 2008-08-16 10:11 pm (UTC)Thanks to the two repliers so far, though. <3 It's interesting.
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Date: 2008-08-17 02:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-17 07:48 am (UTC)I’ve mentioned several times about laruku to my sensei and yet, she is still clueless about them T_T But when I mention Gackt, X Japan, B’z, Mr.Children, Glay.. she knows or at least heard about them!! Sensei!! @_@ how could u! U_U
But there was my friend who had been studied in Japan for 2 years (recently came back) and I talked a bit about laruku. He replied “they’re soo cool eh!” I’m so proud when he said that (he’s a Gackt fan btw). I asked how famous they’re in Japan. He said many people know them although they don’t listen to their music. He said that jap music scene is dominated by jpop artists and err boy idols (it’s the Johny boys rite? ^^; I know nothing about this johny stuff), but still laruku has a huge fanbase. Huge enough to put them at the highest position in the charts.
Still I couldn’t figure out how my sensei doesn’t know about them U_U (I should show her hyde/laruku pics….last time, she said she gona research them on the net but I know she didn’t or forgot about it). Just by mentioning jrock already makes her startled and amazed of me ^^;;;
I nvr read jap music magazine before, so I don’t know how the jap media view of him in general. But I guess he has a clean, public image regardless of his appearances ^^
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Date: 2008-08-17 12:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-19 06:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-20 04:31 am (UTC)Killkillkill
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Date: 2008-08-17 04:39 pm (UTC)lol~ in japanese class, we are asked to say which bands/artistes we like, japanese or not, but more often than not, people who learn japanese; at least in my class, have one or two japanese musicians that they love.
of course mine was Hyde/L'Arc~en~Ciel. ^^
my teacher isn't a fan, but he said they write good music and hyde sings well.
and in another, my friend's japanese patient could only say Hyde is pretty big in japan and that he's really SMALL.
haha~
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Date: 2008-08-19 06:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-18 08:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-18 04:40 pm (UTC)I was in Tokyo last year in May for 10 days (could only stay a short time because my father was having major surgery and I wanted to be back for that), and even for it being my first time, I saw major influences in fashion, music, hair, etc that I could easily link back to L'arc/HYDE. Their stuff was in nearly ever shop in Harajuku (on Takeshita St.)But, I hope to return for possibly a month next summer/fall. I was really hoping to at least see them in Paris when they were there...but no such luck. x.x I'll be seeing Dir en grey this fall but...they're nothing compared to our boys. xDD (Sorry Kaoru, I still want your body)
Thanks again! You guys have been amazing! <333
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Date: 2008-09-26 02:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-12-16 05:14 am (UTC)Well atm I live in Japan so I hope I can at least give a little insight into what people here think about Hyde.
He's surely widely known, no doubt about that and everyone is full of respect for him, boys and girls alike.
Girls mostly find him cool, they adore his voice and his fashion style, they worship Laruku and almost everyone here loves Hyde because of Laruku while in the western fandom many people became a fan of Hyde first through Moonchild.
For the guys it's acutally the same, the find him incredibly cool (it's actually quite hilarious), my friend had a conversation with a guy who told her that he always sings Laruku songs at karaoke and thinks that Hyde is almost too cool and that it pisses him off.
He said to her "but he's really tiny you know" and she said "well that only adds to his charm" and he was like "I know, damn, he's really too cool, how can us normal guys get a chance with the girls if they all adore Haido?". I LAWLED
Of course they are people who've never heard of Laruku or Hyde at all, but there are not that many. When we go into the older league there are women around their fourtys and fiftys who follow the band around since forever (I personally met one of them, she was camping in front of the Zepp Tokyo for all of the VAMPS showz CRAZY OBAASAN).
Hyde is called their kawaikochan (sweet child), at Laruku concerts you can mostly see them wearing their traditional Yukatas, they are coming along in pairs or with their daughters and sometimes even with their grandchildren.
(Younger women often come with their husbands)
Within the music business itself I never met anyone who didn't speak very fondly of Hyde.
He's known for being a true workaholic and very down to earth, it's apparently lots of fun to work with him.
Sometimes he doesn't even realize his own VIP status and just goes out without telling anyone, saying "me? no no I'm not known at all".
He does many things he wouldn't have to do just to make his fans happy, which makes him happy too.
I sounds all very mushy but that are the things I hear everytime, even when I speak to different people who worked with him.
He has many fans within the business itself, for example the comedian who came out during the breaks of the Halloween shows to entertain the fans, he talked about Laruku and how he met them and then made the crowd spontaniously sing Kasou.
As most of you know Yasu from Janne Darc (Acid Black Cherry) and Daigo are also fans and now friends of him. Daigo became a fan through Vivid Colour (he told us on the second night of the Halloween lives and tried to play it on his acoustic guitar but failed XD).
Other's would include the Glay guys, Gackt of course, KAT-TUN who are are crazy for him, Hiroki Narimiya, Tamori from MS and his female counterpart (forgot her name), apparently Hyde was even invided to her wedding. And many more.
Back to the general public:
Laruku is viewed as a band Japan can be proud of, especially Japan's pop-rock scene, they are well aware that many overseas critics would headdesks at hearing their usual idols sing.
They are also getting lots of positive feedback from interviewers of music magazines or critics on the radio and the same goes for Hyde.
He's viewed as beautiful and talented and an ideal for many vocalists out there since even within the japanese music scene is voice is regarded as very unique.
Something that finds not as much recognition in the Western fanbase as it does in the Japanese are the lyrics.
He is known for his poem style lyrics which brought him a nomination as best lyricist once. Especially the older fans love this part of Laruku's music (because well Hyde's solo lyrics are a tad different... they are more loved by the rockin' youth who find English kakkoi)
Many people I met said that hearing a Laruku song feels like listening to part of a story or a dream and that it makes them happy that Japanese musicians still use their language in that way.
LONG POST IS LONG.
SORRY
I hope I could help you out a bit.
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Date: 2009-03-08 03:39 am (UTC)I'm sorry, but what did you mean by that? Can you clarify please? When you said "their" did you mean the critics, Laruku, or Japans'?
And thank you for sharing.
And you said something about most western fans came into the fandom via moonchild-- implying they were Gackt fans first??
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Date: 2009-03-08 05:07 am (UTC)And about the MoonChild stuff.
I think Laruku only got kinda a hype overseas after their solo period ended in 2003 and Hyde decided.
Imho Gackt was kinda more well known overseas until then, kinda like VK bands have a great following overseas but are not at all famous in their homeland.
So I think when Hyde participated in MoonChild more people in the overseas fandom actually took notice of him and thus of Laruku.